Melvin Thomas Oyler (Interview Mel “J” Oyler had with his Grandpa Oyler in 1981)
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Mel: OK, Grandpa, about the 1930’s at the depression time, how old were you at that time?
Neldon: Dad was born in 1908 so it would make him 22.
Mel: You were married then at that time?
Grandpa: Yes, I was married.
Mel: Where did you live at that time? Oh, right here in Loa? OK. What kind of work did you do?
Grandpa: Well, I herded sheep for George Okerlund.
Mel: What could you buy with the money you got?
Grandpa: We could buy a pair of shoes for$1.50 or we could buy a new pair of overalls for that same price. You could get a quart of milk for ten cents. You only got about five cents a pound on cattle – steer calves.
Neldon: Where did you herd sheep at?
Grandpa: On Boulder.
Mel: How many children did you have at that time?
Grandpa: Neldon was born in 1930 – just one.
Mel: When the depression hit what things were you not able to buy that you were able to buy before?
Grandpa: Oh, I think you could buy most anything except flour and things like that. Most people raised their own grain and would take it to be ground for their flour, and we raised our own meat. When we needed meat we would butcher some. We had chickens and had all our own eggs, and raised pigs.
Neldon: Did you have trouble getting sugar?
Grandpa: No, we didn’t have trouble getting sugar. They had it in the stores. We could buy what we could. People made their own butter and made their own cheese; raised their own meat and they didn’t need much else. People would trade what they raised or had with other people for what they had. Grain for fruit – grain to peddlers for different things. We didn’t do much buying. Maybe some overalls and shoes. We would trade hay and potatoes. People had a few bees and we made a lot of honey. They had turkeys, pheasants, chickens.
Mel: Did you have your own farm at this time?
Grandpa: I didn’t have a farm. My Dad had a farm and I worked on farms and herded sheep. In then days we didn’t do much running around. There were very few automobiles. If you wanted to go anyplace you had to go with a team of horses and a buggy.
Mel: Did your Dad have any pigs at that time on his farm?
Grandpa: He raised cows and sheep. He had horses. He had pigs, chickens and turkeys. He had a few sheep. He raised a lot of grain and hay. Ma had her garden and raised peas, corn, cabbage, potatoes, beets, beans, and everything like that.
Mel: You lived in the same house then?
Grandpa: Yah, I lived in the same place. We lived in these two front rooms and Grandma Ramage lived in the rest of the house.
Mel: You grew and raised most of the food you ate?
Grandpa: Yes, except coffee, sugar and stuff like that that we couldn’t raise.
Mel: How about your clothing? Did you buy most of your clothing or did you just buy the material and make them?
Grandpa: Well, on the boys they bought most of their clothing. For the women and babies yhey bought the material and made their dresses and things.
Mel: What did clothes run pricewise at that time?
Grandpa: Clothes in them days was pretty cheap. Oh, I don’t know. After I was married I could go down here and buy shoes for $1.50 and a pair of overalls for $1.50. Wilma could get a dress for about $2.00.
Neldon: ‘Course, that was fairly expensive when you only made $20.00 a month, wasn’t it?
Grandpa: Yah, that’s about what you could get around here. It was only that one year, and after that I did a little better than that. Seventy-five dollars was right top wages at that time. Lambs weren’t bringing any money, and the wool wasn’t bringing any money; cattle and land weren’t worth anything.
Mel: What type of fuel did you have at that time?
Grandpa: Horsepower – had no tractors. Gas lights, coal oil lamps. There was only two or three cars in this county. Fill up with gas and carry a five gallon can with them.
Mel: How about your Dad? What kind of work did he do?
Grandpa: He was just an old farmer. My Dad was. Planted hay and grain.
Mel: How many children did your Dad have?
Mel: Aren’t they all still alive?
Grandpa: They’re all still alive.
Mel: Do you have any questions, Dad?
Neldon: For fuel in your houses all you burned was wood and coal, didn’t you?
Grandpa: Yah, didn’t have any coal. We had to go to Emery to get the coal; and the only way we had of getting any was just the team and the wagon, and most of the time just burned wood. There is some coal right there; two or three years old—Grandma had before Lynnette was born.
Neldon: Dad, what did they do for recreation? Did they have Dances?
Grandpa: Yes, they had a few dances on holidays and on the 4th and 24th of July; and they would have horse races and a baseball game and something like that. They had plays. The kids would take part and go to it, and a show or something. We didn’t have much of anything.
Mel: Were you ever in the horse races or your dad or brothers?
Grandpa: We had the fastest horse in the county.
Mel: What was his name?
Mel: What type of a horse was he?
Grandpa: Oh, he was just an old horse. Ja, he outrun everything in the country and we had him for several years.
Neldon: Did Mother ever go out to the sheep herd with you when you were herding sheep?
Grandpa: Yah, she went out there with me once. She was out there when we had to herd sheep on a saddle horse.
Neldon: How did you meet Mother? A dance was about one of the first times, wasn’t it?
Grandpa: No, we knew each other when we were kids going to school. They just lived right over here. In the summer time, they lived on that old farm over by Mother.
Neldon: How many families lived in the county at that time, Dad? or here in Loa?
Grandpa: Oh, I don’t know. About 50 or 57. There wasn’t too many.
Neldon: Scott McClellan run the store didn’t he? Did they have an ice cream fountain and stuff like that in there at that time?
Grandpa: Well, old McClellan built that store in 1912. He didn’t have that ice cream fountain for a long time after that. I don’t know whether they got that in there before the depression or after.
Neldon: When was it you used to make the ice cream for it down there?
Grandpa: Well, after they put the ice cream fountain in.
Neldon: Then that was after the depression?
Grandpa: No, that was before. They had it in there before the depression because I worked there before I was married.
Mel: What type of ice cream did you make?
(Insert: This was written to Neldon by his Mother several years before the date of this interview: “Your Dad was between 15 and 20 when they had the Loa Co-op. They had an ice cream fountain and Dad used to freeze 40 gal. of ice cream a week. The fountain was owned by Scott McClellan. They used to make 15 gal. freezers. On the 4th and 24th Dad would freeze ice cream for three days before”)
Neldon: Dad, where’s the first place you lived after you and Mother were married? That was ’29. That was about the start of the depression. Were you working for George Okerlund when you and Mother were married?
Grandpa: Well, I worked for George Okerlund off and on for years. I guess I worked on the farm out there for two years before me and your Ma was married.
Neldon: What did George do? Did he work on the farm, too?
Grandpa: George wouldn’t do much of anything himself. He hired men and would keep down the unemployment.
Neldon: Did he have some kind of a city office or something, the reason he did that?
Grandpa: No, he didn’t have any office or nothing. He just had money so that he could hire all his work done.
Neldon: Were you working for him when you and Mother got married or somebody else?
Grandpa: I don’t believe I was working for George when we got married. No, I was working for Old Man Haney down there in his garage.
Neldon: When you and Mother got married?
Grandpa: Yah, I was working for Old Man Haney down in the garage when we got married, and we lived across the street from there where the bank is now.
Neldon: Well, that garage was located there where Darrel Albrecht’s station is now.
Neldon: Then, who were you working for, Dad, when you herded sheep out on Parker when I was little?
Grandpa: Well, we was just working for ourselves. Me and Vaughn leased that co-op herd and herded sheep for so much a head.
Neldon: How many years did you do that?
Grandpa: Just one – Then the next year I went out to old Will Ivie’s. I went over and took Will Ivie’s place over there and he’d come over and put up his crop.
Mel: Didn’t you work out at Wendover at one time?
Grandpa: Yah, that was in ’42.
Mel: That was during the war then?
Grandpa: Yah, that was during the war.
Mel: What kind of work did you do out there?
Grandpa: I was driving truck. It was when they was constructing that Army base out there.
Mel: Is that when you started in the road construction business?
Grandpa: No, when I quit Wendover, then I went to work for Vic Lawrence. Then I come home and I started to work on construction for Harry Reynolds.
Neldon: Dad, how many years were you working out at Wendover?
Neldon: We lived out there one year in that big old tent.
Grandpa: I was out there two years. I worked for Vic Lawrence over on that ranch at Skull Valley.
Neldon: Was that after you were out at Wendover?
Grandpa: Uh huh.
Neldon: Then you worked for him one summer in Wyoming, didn’t you?
Grandpa: That was the same time. He had a contract on baling hay for Cudahay’s.
Neldon: Where all did you work when you worked for Reynolds?
Grandpa: Oh, we built that road from the main highway into Fish Lake. We oiled that road clear up through to Bowery Haven. Then we went from there down to Circleville and built that road down the Circleville Canyon. Then we went from there over to Beaver and built that road from Beaver back over to Panguitch.
Neldon: How many years did you work for him?
Grandpa: Oh, I don’t know – two or three.
Neldon: When I went on my mission you worked up at the Fish Hatchery. How many years did you work up there?
Grandpa: Well, I only worked a year. Then I got that fish poisoning in my hand and I had to quit.
Mel: How did you get the fish poisoning in your hand?
Grandpa: I them days they didn’t have feed for the fish like they do now. And we’d have to go around and when people would have a horse or cow or anything like that that died we’d go ask the guy if we could get the meat. We’d skin them out and dress them out and grind it up and we’d go get it and you’d have to take it in your hand and throw it like that (gesture with hand) into the water for the little fish. And I had a sore or something on my hand and got that fish poisoning in my hand and it all swelled up; and I had to hold my hand just like that (holding his hand up) and if I would set it down just like that it’d be like somebody just taking a hammer and scraping the meat off my bone.
Neldon: You were like that when I left on my mission, weren’t you?
Grandpa: I had that poison and they gave me a quite a few shots in each hand.
Mel: Was it something in the meat or was it the fish?
Grandpa: Oh, I don’t know if it was something in the meat or something in handling the fish or what.
Mel: What type of work did you do out at the sawmill?
Grandpa: I worked on the mill--sawing lumber. Worked on the sawmill--sawing lumber. All I did was saw, some other guys did the lathing.
Mel: Where did they get most of their wood from?
Grandpa: On Boulder out here.
Neldon: Was it Tarvel Albrecht that you worked for all the time on the sawmill?
Neldon: Then when you left there was that when you went to work for the highway department?
Mel: What was the first job that you had – the very first one?
Grandpa: The first job I remember of having?
Grandpa: (laughs) Well, the very first one I remember of having is helping somebody haul hay on a wagon – tromping.
Mel: Where they threw the hay up and you tromped on it?
Grandpa: Uh huh. Neldon: How much did they pay you then, Dad?
Grandpa: Thirty cents a day.
Neldon: Thirty cents?
Grandpa: Yah, thirty cents a day and we thought we was rich. Old Amassy give it to you in silver every night.
Vilda: How many hours did you work?
Grandpa: Oh, we’d work about 8 hours a day.
Neldon: Where’d he live?
Grandpa: He was an old batch. He lived down there where Voyle Sorensen lives by himself. If you’d walk from down there through to where Barlow Pace lives now, that was his farm for that old batch. He’d walk up there every night and morning and do his chores and back carrying five or six gallons of milk every night and morning. Milked two or three cows.
Mel: What other types of work did your father do?
Grandpa: Well, Dad could do most anything. He was a pretty good carpenter, and did plumbing work. It was about all the jobs they had around here.
Neldon: Didn’t they do a little mining or was it just Uncle Tine that done mining?
Grandpa: Yah, Tine had a little old uranium mine down there in Fruita, but it never did do much for him.
Neldon: Did you ever work for Frank Neff up there or was it just your dad that worked for Frank?
Grandpa: Hans and me both worked up there. Dad used to work up there, too, when we were just little kids.
Neldon: You run that farm out to Dry Valley for a couple years, though, didn’t you? Or was it just one?
Grandpa: I was just out there part of the summer, then Dan came back and took it over. Guess he started out and planted the potatoes. When he got the potatoes up, he up and quit in the middle of the year and I went out and took it over. And when it was about time to dig the potatoes, Dan came and took it over and I came home.
Neldon: You were raising turkeys out there at that time, too, wasn’t you?
Grandpa: Dan was.
Neldon: Where was he at?
Grandpa: He and LaDoan was in on that trucking trying to get it going.
Mel: About how much land did your dad own at that time?
Grandpa: Oh, Dad had about 60 acres.
Mel: How much do you own now?
Grandpa: Oh, I have that lot down there in town. It’s about an acre and a half. My brother owns most of it. I guess Les has got about 80 acres of ground and 16 head of cows.
Neldon: Did Grandpa and Grandma live in that same place all the time you were growing up, Dad? Is that where you were born? That little house there now?
Grandpa: Yes, that’s where Grandpa and Grandma Oyler lived in there.
Neldon: Did Grandpa and Grandma Oyler build it?
Grandpa: Dad did a lot of work on it. There was only two rooms on it to start with then Dad built on to it. That’s where I was born.
Mel: They didn’t have mandatory education at that time, did they?
Grandpa: Yah, a lot of kids didn’t go to school and some of them couldn’t. A few of them went to high school and very few of them went to college.
Mel: Was most of the work you did work you learned by watching and working along?
Neldon: What kind of things did you do when you were young, Dad? Did you just help your Dad?
Grandpa: Well, when I was a kid I just helped my dad on the farm all the time. There was nothing else to do. There were just farmers around. We helped to haul hay or something in the summer time.
Neldon: What did you do for entertainment? Did you play like the kids do now?
Grandpa: Yes, when we didn’t have work to do, we played.
Neldon: What did you have to play with? Did you have toys like they have today?
Grandpa: No, (laughs) we didn’t have any toys.
Neldon: What did they use?
Grandpa: Oh, Dad used to find a board and saw it off and make a wooden gun out of it. And Ma would make rag dolls for the kids. We didn’t buy any toys like they get today – not even for Christmas.
Neldon: What did you used to get for Christmas?
Grandpa: We used to get candy and nuts and oranges and stuff like that and a few little trinkets that they could make. When we were little kids we got wooden blocks we’d play with. You couldn’t buy toys like they got nowadays. One toy I had was one of these little old cork guns about that long (gesture) and it had a cork in it. No, we didn’t get no toys like they do now. Once in a while the guys that could afford it - they had these little wagons. They were made different than the ones they get today. They had wooden wheels just like a real wagon with a wagon box on it. You could take the box off and have a pair of running gears and put a pair of double trees and a neck yoke on. It was just like a real wagon. We’d hitch it to the old dog.
Neldon: Make him pull you around, huh?
Mel: Were you ever in any of the plays they put on or did you do a lot of dancing?
Grandpa: I didn’t do anything like that.
Neldon: You used to dance didn’t you?
Grandpa: Yah, I used to go to the dances. I don’t think Wilma was in any of the plays, either. I think Lizzie was in one or two. Dad was in one or two.
Neldon: Your Dad was?
Grandpa: Yah, as an older guy.
Mel: What type of plays were they that they would put on?
Grandpa: Some kind of story they’d put on. No there wasn’t much entertainment. There wasn’t much excitement.
Neldon: Did they only have dances on holidays or did they have quite a few dances just on weekends or stuff like that for kids to do?
Grandpa: Mostly just on holidays. That was here, and then they built that Loa Inn dance hall up there where the fish hatchery is. Then we used to have dances up there every Saturday night. We had dances in the summer time. In the winter time, about the only time they had dances was during the holidays.
Neldon: Then there wasn’t much to do for entertainment?
Grandpa: No. We didn’t have any way of getting around –only horse and buggy.
Neldon: What did you do when you went courtin’?
Grandpa: We either walked or went on a horse.
Neldon: Where did you go?
Grandpa: Didn’t go nowhere, but just right here. We didn’t get out and go all over the country. We just had to stay right here at home. There was no place else to go.
Neldon: Did you have lots of candy pulls or stuff like that?
Grandpa: We had a few candy pulls and a few parties and stuff like that – roasted a few chickens.
Mel: Did they have spring mattresses for your beds at that time, or a feather bed, or what?
Grandpa: Well, the first bed that I can remember was straw – what we called straw ticks. Then Ma and them had one filled full of feathers. It was feathers kept from plucking the chickens and they made pillows out of them and Ma had a big tick from them.
Mel: I read in a book where they would have a down party and they would all get together and sing songs and make the down beds. Did they do something like that in Loa?
Grandpa: Not that I knew of. Every year they would have the old steam thresher and we would go out and fill the ticks with straw.
Neldon: Tell about the old steam thresher, Dad. What was it like? I just vaguely remember it.
Grandpa: Oh, they just had that big engine that run the power and they kept water in it and the steam run the belt and the thresher. It took a lot of wood to run it.
Neldon: Who had to furnish the wood? The guy that was doing the threshing?
Grandpa: The guy that owned the grain had to furnish the wood. Then they would have to furnish enough wood to get the machines to the next guy’s place. It was the same kind of an engine they used to have on the railroad tracks to pull the trains with.
Neldon: Did they haul the grain in and put it in a stack?
Grandpa: We used to cut it and tie it into bundles, then shock it and then haul it into stacks and then thresh it. Now it is all combined right in the field.
Neldon: The old thresher just had a big blower on it, didn’t it, to blow the straw into a big stack?
Mel: Did you do a lot of swimming during the summer time?
Grandpa: No. I don’t know how to swim. There wasn’t any place to go unless you went down in the old ditch.
Neldon: Were there a lot of Indians around here when you were young, Dad?
Grandpa: There was a few Indians lived on the Grass Valley and then they’d come over here and beg all the deer hides. You’d give ‘em a deer hide – they’d tan you one for so many hides. They’d make gloves out of them and all kinds of moccasins. They’d come over and beg for flour, bread or anything you had that you wanted to give them.
Neldon: When did you get your first car?
Neldon: Just before you and Mother was married, huh?
Grandpa: Me and Dad bought that one. Then we bought that ’49 Chev we have now just before he died. They used to all have flat tops and we had curtains on the side. Then when we bought the ’49 it had an oval top.
Mel: What process did you have to go through to get a license at that time?
Grandpa: Just about like you have to now. It hasn’t changed a lot – you’d just go down to the Post Office and they’d give you a blank and you’d fill it out and sent it in to the State Capital at Salt Lake and they’d send your license.
Neldon: Dad, when you were young did you ride a lot on horses or play out in the hills on horses?
Grandpa: We rode horses a lot but we never did play out in the hills.
Neldon: Did they have Easter egg hunts and stuff like that when you were kids or did you go out in the hills and roll the eggs?
Neldon: What did you do on Easter?
Grandpa: Just take a lunch and go out to Road Creek Canyon and eat it. They used the horses those days to work – they didn’t use them just to play around with. Oh, it was fun to go roundup a cow, when it got out, on the horses.
Neldon: How many cows did you milk when you were young? Did you milk quite a few?
Grandpa: Oh I think Dad only had about 4 head down there. When I was working down there for Art Brian, I had about 15 to milk. We’d milk ‘em and separate the milk. He’d sell the cream.
Neldon: Did they just sell the cream locally here or did they ship it out?
Grandpa: John Moore would come in here and buy the cream. They’d tell you how many pounds of milk and cream you had and then they’d send you a check.
Neldon: Then you had to separate it all?
Grandpa: Yes, you had to separate it. We’d give the milk to the pigs and get paid for the cream and they’d make butter out of it.
Mel: Did you have a bank in town at that time?
Grandpa: I think it was twenty something, about ’26, before we had a bank in town.
Mel: Then how would you get the money for the check?
Grandpa: They would usually cash them down at the store. If a guy had a lot of money, he’d have to go to Richfield to the bank to sign the check to get the money.
Mel: Who owned the store at that time?
Grandpa: Scott McClellan.
Mel: Was there ever a circus that came through town or somewhere close that you went to?
Grandpa: No. No circus. No, it was too far out to go to a big town to the circuses that traveled around. We didn’t have no cars or anything.
Mel: When you worked down at the sawmill, how did the sawmill run? Did it run by water or what?
Grandpa: We used a motor.
Mel: So you used gas?
Grandpa: In the earlier days the sawmills run by steam, a steam engine. But we used a motor. Now they have electricity, so they use electric motors.
Neldon: Dad, did you ever work on the PWA?
Neldon: What years was that? The latter part of the depression, wasn’t it?
Grandpa: I believe 1930. They just had you go around with the forest service and fix a few trails and stuff like that. We done most of our work down at Fruita – rifraffing down along the river and fixing those old roads up there.
Neldon: Now the CCC’s were different than the PWA, wasn’t it?
Grandpa: Yah, they were different.
Neldon: They used to be down here, too, didn’t they?
Grandpa: Yah, they was the ones that started building that road down to Boulder.
Neldon: How much did they pay on the PWA then?
Grandpa: Not very much.
Neldon: Did they have any requirements for you to be able to work there?
Grandpa: If you needed work, they’d put you on. If you didn’t have a job, you could get on. Anybody that had a big farm couldn’t get on.
Neldon: How many years was it you hauled ice up on the reservoir? I remember you hauling ice.
Grandpa: I didn’t haul ice.
Neldon: You used to haul ice and put it out in the old granary – bury it in sawdust out in the old granary.
Grandpa: Oh, a pickup load or so.
Neldon: I thought you used to haul it with a team and wagon and fill that one-half of the granary with ice.
Grandpa: It wouldn’t be very much. Maybe only one wagon load.
Neldon: That was to have for your coolers?
Grandpa: No, just to have to make ice cream.
Neldon: How did you get a hole in the ice to start sawing?
Grandpa: With the axe.
Mel: Did people do much ice skating over on the lake?
Grandpa: No, I don’t think they did any on the lake. They had a lot of skating down on the river down through the pastures.
Mel: Did you do any ice skating?
Grandpa: Yah, I done some ice skating. Ja, I skated a little.
Neldon: Did you have wiener roasts or anything like that when you were younger, or did they have wieners?
Grandpa: They didn’t have wieners.
Mel: When you worked on construction for building the roads, what type of work did you do on that?
Grandpa: Well, I done a lot of things for ‘em. I run a cat for ‘em. I run the jackhammer, loaded truck, worked on the crusher, graveled on the shale.
Neldon: What job did you enjoy the most, Dad?
Neldon: None? Well, of the ones you did, which one did you like the best?
Grandpa: Well, the survey down at Glen Canyon. Anyway, we made the most money.
Mel: When you were putting the roads in, did you ever run into anything like burial grounds?
Grandpa: No, nothing like that.
Mel: Did you live here when you were working on the road or did you live in a tent or what?
Grandpa: If we were working right around town here, we would live at home. If we were in another town, we would rent a house somewhere to live in.
Mel: Did Grandma go along with you or did she stay home?
Grandpa: She never did go with me when I was working on the road construction.
Mel: Did she ever go out and do any work for other people?
Grandpa: Oh, once in a while in the fall of the year she went over and worked at the turkey plant. She would help guys around here in potatoes and pick up potatoes. She didn’t go out and do much work for others.
Neldon: It was while I was on my mission she started working for the turkey plant, wasn’t it?
Grandpa: Yah, I believe. They rented a house over to Salina and spent the week and then on weekends they’d come home and we’d have to take them back Sunday night so they could be to work Monday morning.
Mel: Did you do a lot of hunting and fishing?
Grandpa: No, I never did much hunting. I did some fishing.
Mel: Did they have a restriction at that time like they do now?
Grandpa: Yah, you could only have one deer.
Neldon: Did you hunt much for duck?
Grandpa: No, I didn’t hunt for duck.
Mel: Did they require you to have a license to hunt?
Grandpa: Yah, they made you have a license.
Mel: How much did a gun cost at that time?
Grandpa: Well, when I bought my rifle that I’ve got in there, I gave $35.00 for it. Now you’d give around $200.00. I gave $5. 00 for that .22. .22 bullets were 15 cents a box, now they’re a dollar or so.
Mel: were you pretty good at hunting?
Grandpa: Oh, I used to be pretty good at hunting deer. Oh, I was a pretty good shot with the shot gun, too.
Neldon: What was it they used to smoke the meat with, Dad? What kind of wood?
Neldon: Just plain old cottonwood?
Grandpa: Just trees like grows around here. We’d just take the limbs off them.
Neldon: I’d like to have some of that meat again. That was really good.
Grandpa: At a lot of places they use hickory around here. We used green cottonwood.
Neldon: How many days would it take to smoke it?
Grandpa: Oh, it depended on how much smoke you wanted – two or three days.
Neldon: What was it they cured it with before they smoked it?
Grandpa: Oh, I don’t know. I had a mixture of different stuff – salt, and pepper, saltpeter, and alum. We’d put it in the salt barrel and soak it and then take it out and hang it up until it was dry and then smoke it and pack it. Them days we didn’t have any fridges or deep freezers, so after they got their meat all cured they’d take and put it in sacks and dig a hole down in the grain bin and bury it in the grain so the flies wouldn’t get at the food.
Neldon: What would they do with the beef and stuff like that? Would they cure it the same way?
Grandpa: No, the beef we either had to eat up in the cold part of the winter or else bottle it.
Neldon: Did you ever make any jerky?
Grandpa: I didn’t. Dad did. Dad used to make jerky every winter. I didn’t.
Mel: Did you butcher most of your own meat?
Grandpa: We done our own butchering.
Mel: Did they have, at that time, any places you could take them to be butchered?
Grandpa: No, we all butchered. We didn’t have any place we could take them to get it done.
Neldon: During the summer they had what was called a meat trust, so the people in town could have fresh beef. Every week they would kill a beef and they would get a certain cut of the meat and during the year they’d get the whole beef. Sometimes they’d get the neck and sometime they’d get the ribs and sometimes they’d get the hind quarter or front quarter or something like that.
Grandpa: There would be 20 cuts of beef before you’d get the whole one—round quarter, low front quarter, low hind quarter, ribs, the backbone, and so on.
Neldon: That way they could always have fresh meat.
(A lot of the language as spoken has been kept in this interview to make it more personal)